Very cool. Make sure you post up whatever you come up with here! 
absolutely!
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@_ronzlo Aight, got busy but I fixed it up a bit. Made it a little more wet I guess, sidechained more, idk, how does it sound? Again didn’t master it so the mixdown might be meh
https://soundcloud.com/primerofficial/wip-clip-reworked/s-ETHpY
i like how broken down i sounds like at 8 secs, but i think you used a healthy amount of that to stop it being obnoxious, i think from here id maybe bring in something a bit heavier and clearer to contrast the nice muddy ambience you built
Definitely getting warmer m8. Have you thought about experimenting with where you put your downbeat accent?
Thanks. Muddy as in good muddy? Or is it actually too muddy lol. What ideas did you have in mind for the heavier contrast? Like a distorted bass, or some bigger percussion?
Thanks man, no I didn’t think about that. I thought about time signature, I did an 11/4 track once that sounded pretty good but 4/4 felt okay for this one. I kind of like where the downbeat is right now but what did you have in mind?
deffo good muddy, i think a sharp distorted bass would sound good to just power through the mix, im sure youll come up with something good 
Not so much an odd time sig (altho that’d occurred to me too) - if you do it should still groove though, like 7/4 or 12/8.
Rather, instead of putting the snares exactly on the 2 and 4 (or 5 and 9 on a 16 step seq., whatever) - nudge one of them in either direction incrementally, optional for the other - like that old UKG swingy bruk shit, tbh.
Not saying it’s surefire, but when it works it REALLY works with a track where the ear is listening to the space more… gives it a kind of loping life.
Thanks man! Yeah I’ll experiment with that
Interesting idea, I’ll definitely try that!
Yeah I tried 7/4 once and it worked quite well, never did 12/8, but I’m probably not gonna change the time signature for this one, though I do want to do a full track in an odd time signature.
I almost wanna nominate this track for the discussed “handoff collab” we’ve been discussing elsewhere…
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That’s actually really cool, I’d love to see what people do with it
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@_ronzlo
Okay, I think I finished the track. At this point, I don’t want to make a lot of structural changes. My main concern now is this mixdown. I’m far from a mastering engineer, so my mixdowns probably sound like garbage. How does this sound? I haven’t listened to it on anything but my headphones so it could be rife with problems
LOVE the intro; still really feeling the overall vibes - and I’m super wary of interpolating my tastes with attempts at critical objectivity, so here goes:
I like this tune, but feel it’s at an aesthetic crossroads. The dark/fuzzy/weird/wonky sounds hint at something even deeper and more chaotic, but the melody [of the processed vocals] and the “traditionality” or predictability of the drums want to go the opposite direction. (Again - to me.)
Now, this can still work as the tension between those urges can be manipulated… and your attention to detail is great, lots of little pieces of candy for the ear here… but you could also nudge this track farther toward one of those two axes as well to good effect.
My vote would be to go down the dark and twisty path and abstractify it more, but abstraction for its own sake is a dangerous thing. It has to be genuine and say something. If you’re not feeling that, there’s nothing wrong with that. If you took it into the melodic/structured tangent more you’re wrangling all those wiggly odd sounds and trying to make them all support the main theme, which can also be tough.
All of this talking is really making me want to have a go at it LOL. You still down for the handoff ting? Do you have stems? What’s yr DAW?
PS: You also have a new follower on SC. 
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Thanks so much man!
I see what you mean about aesthetic crossroads. This is the first “experimental” track I’ve ever tried to make, so I don’t have a lot of the techniques down, which is why I don’t have a lot of ideas on how to make the meat more abstract. When Badminded dropped I was like, man I want to do something like that, and I’d say Badminded is the perfect blend of the oldschool style and the wonky abstract style, which is what I tried to achieve. Obviously I’m nowhere near Epoch’s skill level, but I tried lol. I would like to make it more abstract, but I also want it to still be a headbanging tune, like something you can vibe to. I really like very abstract, off rhythm tunes, but I wanted this one to be closer to traditional dubstep.
Yeah, I’m currently struggling with giving the abstraction purpose, and I want it to be abstract, but like I said I think its basically where I want it. At least I think it is? I’m glad you like the intro, I kind of wanted to scrap most of what I did and do more of what I did in the intro, but I haven’t got around to experimenting with that, I’ve been super busy. I would like to try that more, but at the same time I don’t want to stray too much from traditional dubstep.
If you feel like its a tune that can stand on its own, like its “releasable” then I think I can finish it and move on to other stuff, but if you still have good ideas, want to collab on it? I am down for the handoff ting, but I can send it to you if you wanna have a go at it.
I use Logic Pro X, the project file is somewhat organized but still a little messy.
Nice! A Middle eastern melody would fit this perfectly. Something like Seven Lions Isis melody.
this is dirty mate. reminds of cloud seed era vex’d.
my advice would be to maybe have some dryer drums or percs over the top, something to make the snare cut through. reverb can hold a tune together but also take the grunt out of drums. just needs a bit more crunch.
you have some room to work with in the centered midrange area because the pads or whatever are very stereo
sidechain your reverb channel also.
crank that badboy flute up.
try some dry dubby delays.
more stuff like that sound in the 2nd drop.
hiding stuff in layers of sound is fun, but ive come to realise if you want a sound to take someones attention, make it take their attention. some things are best if theyre brought forward in the mix.
CALL AND RESPONSE
good work
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thanks man!! i’m flattered lol. really solid advice, I’m def gonna use this!
wait holy shit Epoch replied to me omg~
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