The way the wav player/audio track interprets silence or x cutting/point of silence is apparently differenrt for each DAW. Which means that transients might actually not line up exactly the same for each DAW.
And apparently there is dithering in some of the DAWs before they hit the master. Which then changes the noisefloor.
So its hard to run tests too.
Wouldn’t be hard to test at all, if youre just talking about summing or dithering things that happen in the DAW regardless of what you do with the settings, you could just import some stems on audio tracks, leave them untouched, export it all as a wav with the same sample rate & bit depth and settings etc and do a null test. If you can get them to null then there cant be any “colouring” going on because of x or y daw, or at least those programs youve used do it the same
I dont have a lot of daws at my disposal but I’m interested to try this in ableton and reason and see what happens.
If anyone does have evidence to the contrary i would be very interested to see it, this is all just from reading other sources. Im just not inclined to think theres a noticeable difference unless someone actually demonstrates it in a concrete way, theres so many anecdotal claims about sound that people swear they can hear that are objectively placebo effect
All this technical talk is making me fear the both of you in this next sample pack comp !
Technical stuff is one thing, artistry is another 
I think it’s worth considering how the UI of the daw and plugins might pull users towards some decisions or others. When that compounds with the traits of the stock plugins you can imo definitely get an “ableton sound” to some tracks
The sound of the ping pong echo and the time stretching/slicing in Ableton specifically pop out to me in some tunes
Alchemy in Logic is the go to big boy sound design tool among the stock instruments and that definitely has a “sound” too
Your right there, good job you’ve got both!
A lot of what you guys are talking about goes way over what Id consider to be in my remit of comprehension…
Do you do something music tech related for work Marsen ?
Yeah, good points. Also even just the visual cues the daw provides could influence how it “sounds” to the user.
I work in retail for Long & McQuade so kind of but it’s 90% just helping people pick interfaces so they can do livestreams and zoom stuff lol. Also have some schooling in audio engineering tho
That makes sense on both parts !
I just gave you some examples of how DAWs may behave differently
if for example transients line up differently then that is going to colour the sound
so is the level of noisefloor
but its really not important, its just a matter of daws constantly evolving
i use logic from 2001 so theres that too lolololol
lol
Not sure what your lolling about here I hope your happy
was a fun take
I’m not saying you aren’t right, I’m just saying I’ll believe it if it can be demonstrated practically rather than speculated. I also wonder why a large number of people who are more technically proficient than me would be saying that all digital audio is processed the same in different daws IF the same settings and quality are applied if that wasn’t true. Not sure what motive they would have to be misleading about that
what the fuck is summing. I’ve been dablling with music production for over 10 yrs but never even heard of it. I can’t understand a word of MARSEN’s post lmao
Summing is when different channels of audio get combined (added) together.
I’m totally on MARSEN’s side here. This has been discussed for decades.
how can you not like a particular daws summing? how do you notice a difference
I don’t think there is any appreciable difference. Headroom/noise floor in the digital world are so far outside of the scope of working on music that if careful consideration is taken of each DAW’s workflow you could output virtually identical audio files. In the past there might have been more differences because of 16 bit interpolation, and reduced headroom etc.
no, it can definitely BE processed the same way
but its more like are there things in the way of that