Yeh i hate this. Fully takes me like 3-4 minutes to actually start up ableton and get going. Then theres Reason that opens in abt 10 seconds flat… lol
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Reason is well optimised it seems. I almost don’t use any 3rd party plugs, but still I haven’t run into any performance issues, like ever. Even on my last pc. Also, it very rarely crashes on me. Might be because only stock plugs I guess. I think I’ve lost a project to a crash like 1 or 2 times in +14 years or so.
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What the fuck lol
Is that including loading a project?
Takes 2.5 seconds for Reaper to open for me.
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Depending on the project but yeah. Not sure if its cause i have a lot of plugins and need to turn plugin scanning off or something. Once its going its fine and runs great it but it seems like its slow to start up, will see how Live 11 is in comparison tho cause ive installed it now but havent played around with it much yet
Same tbf. Or like you said depends on the project. Idk if it’s because ableton has to scan through all my sample folders or what… Always thought that the new releases and updates would make the program more snappy / quicker in many ways.
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the worst is when you walk away, but come back and it hasn’t loaded because the message saying the audio engine is turned off has popped up and waiting to hit ok 
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Tested now and it takes about 15 seconds to open Reason here, on a default mostly empty project.
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You guys need to learn to code, my Live opens in like 3 seconds
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What’d you do?
lol yeah I’ve never had issues with opening live and I’m on a moderately low tier mac
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click the Live icon on the dock (left-click)
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Walked right into that one i guess
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Yeah did the options.txt thing to disable startup vst scanning, makes a big difference for load time. Also, apparently the less stuff you have saved in your “Places” section in the browser, the quicker it will boot up as well.
Is there any downside to stopping vst scanning? I hardly ever add new plugins these days
not really it just doesn’t scan them all automatically each time you open, so if you install a new plugin you have to go to plugins window in preferences and do the manual rescan. other than that your vst folders and lists all stay the same as they are
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What is that again? The options.txt?
I remember doing something like that years ago.
I think that is my issue because I have so many VST’s like the whole Arturia and Soundtoys bundles.
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https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209772865-Options-txt-file
First link is where to find the folder
this one has the line you need to copy into the txt file to disable vst scanning and it links through to an article with a bunch of other stuff you can do by adding things to options.txt
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I feel ya. Ashamed to say that my plugins folder is right around 20gbs in size 
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I thought my gig and a half was excessive!
Noooo don’t say it like that, just makes me more embarrased. 
Esp since I don’t use remotely close to everything in there. Tbf this has been a recurring problem ever since I started producing. I think it’s GAS only in plugin form.
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