Production Thoughts

Sauce!!

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norman finkelstein x cumtown

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Lol this video is crazy. El-B sits down with Logic on a projector screen fully committed to teaching a room of hesitant nerds anything they wanna know about the ghost sound process

Literally over the shoulder step by step guiding a kid on how to do it. This is almost fucked up lol. We don’t deserve this.

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cool

kinda wanna punch the other guy
not hard
soft but in a way that is annoying to him

so much in common with timbo - as he said

nice with music that has a sense of fun or humor
i never listen to stuff like that anymore but should
cheeky funk

hes pretty funny too
good vid

I think benny ill did one, or is doing one in croydon too, i should go really it’s only down the road lol

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damn this is sick

jokes bit where he’s slagging of noodles and the guys who worked with and stole mj coles shit

reading and listening to a lot of stuff from back then and that whole scene sounded so sketchy back in the day :lol_og:

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proper gold vid tbh

but also feel El-Bs insight/experience shows up why Garage is mostly about the strict vibe side for good and for bad

I dont know that its a critique but I did grow tired of that J-dilla swing too when hip hop got too mpc

its a means in the same way

i think a lot of music manage to go in and out of minimalism and maximalism - but something like boombap or garage does maximalist bad - or there is atleast that constant danger of cluttering

it might just be that minimalist rhythm is superior to cluttered maximalism in general in music

cant decide

kinda the whole discussion of funk where originally that genre was way more bluesy and about feelings and dispair, but then ended up being a vehicle for other genre-mix but put in a funkswing hold and sounding embarrassing - to a degree

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yerh it’s a cool tutorial but 90% of it is ‘here’s how to make El-B drums’, useful look at swing if you don’t already know much about it i guess. Loved that Burial anecdote lol

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thats the bit we want tho innit ?

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i didnt get what knob on a limiter he meant?

he was talking about his own nob iirc

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ngl interested in that too

no but for real was he talking about adjusting the in and then balancing it with the out?

really made no sense to me - but love when a producer doesn’t bother understanding tech but just goes for it
manuals are for liberal democrats

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show me on the pic, boys

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havent watched all of it but theres a bit where he was on about over compressing something and distorting it, and then bringing it back into the green on your channel/mixing strip by using a limiter

is that what you’re on about?

This bit?

I think he’s talking about pushing the compressor right into the red so the drums get distorted and good-nasty, but counteracting this with a limiter so it keeps it in the green and doesn’t clip and go bad-nasty.

Wish we could see the actual DAW screen properly.

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think he just says WHACK IT UP then LIMIT IT BACK DOWN
v science

bit like all these LUFS memes going around currently

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Go hard, and then go home

it is literally the audio equivalent of that lol

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Going to try it next time I make some beats

He’s kinda technically wrong about some of his descriptions and he treats the logic compressor mainly as a limiter and calls all the compressor functionality “fine tuning”, didn’t even think about compression threshold or ratio first. Which is not how they introduce you to the compressor at sound tech uni.

But if you pay attention in the context of having heard his tunes, and read a bit between the lines and it all makes sense and there’s gems in there.

Thing is u gotta realize el b IS NOT WRONG and can’t be. He came up with a very fresh sound that was done just right and the tunes stand up to this day. It’s on us to understand. The kids should have asked more interesting questions about stuff like the interplay between perc and chord sounds in “The Club”

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