Production Thoughts

Can confirm. Getting lost in the technical can be frustrating af when you’d rather churn out musical ideas.

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To fuck, got sooo many ideas but no clue how to use Ableton,
Gonna force myself to get familiar with it over the nex week now i’ve ran out of weed.
Still wanna try sampling with those tutorials Topmo sent a while ago but been super lazy as usual

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Cheers will have a good go at it later

Ah fuck.
I don’t know how I have overlooked this for so long. I feel like a fool…

Whenever I import samples into Reaper they either have two waveforms or one.
Like so…
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I’m right thinking that the single waveform samples are in mono aren’t they?

So even if I set them to 100% wide in Reaper, like so…

…they won’t be filling the stereo space?

Which is such a rookie mistake I’m so annoyed at myself.

Question is… how do I make it stereo?
Can I duplicate the track and pan hard right and hard left?

https://www.voxengo.com/product/stereotouch/

use this, its free

That’ll widen out any mono sample to fill the space?

yep, i mean you can also do what you said and duplicate the track and pan to taste but this does what you want with much less hassle, just add it on the track FX chain and voila

Thanks man. I was afraid I would have to replace all mono samples.
In the future would it sensible to create a stereo version of any mono sample I want to use, and use that instead? I suppose that’d save CPU etc as I’m using less plugins.

yeah for sure, although this one is really not CPU intensive ime

your reverbs and delays and whatnot are probably eating a lot more CPU

Yeah true.
Why would samples be in mono anyway?
I get bass and kicks but hihats???

Surely it’s easier to go stereo to mono rather than th eother way round

Mono all the way bro

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Who changed the thread title?? :joy:

A lot of sounds arent stereo to begin with. A real drum hit might be recorded with a single mic. Also a lot of drum machines arent stereo output, or might not be recorded that way.

If you just take a mono sound and duplicate it and pan each one to a side, it still will be mono (although a bit louder than before). It has to be slightly out of time (like, by milliseconds) before youre going to hear a stereo effect. You could do that manually, or use a stereo effect like delay, verb or chorus etc to give it stereo information

Also mono hits can still be used pretty effectively. The key isnt so much everything being stereo but the stereo space being filled. An all mono kit of drum hits will sound nice and wide if you pan everything into its own space

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There are other effects that do that as well. Voxengo Stereo Touch is just a delay with presets mostly set for creating a stereo image. Theres also things like Isotope Ozone Imager (available free separately from ozone) or Wider by Infected Mushroom (also free) that add a stereo effect in different ways without using a delay. Dont know how to explain off hand but theyre good to have on hand as well

Thanks that’s a big help.
I also have Ozone Imager so have been fiddling with that and reading up on panning and width and stereo etc and this quote made a lot of sense:

"you need to control the image of the individual components in order to best deliver the clarity of the mix given the parameters and the desired results of the parameters.

And this is not panning, that’s location of the space you’re in. this is about, how big of an area you want the original signal to cover with in that location."

I’m getting a sense of things now and already have a loop sounding better than I would have done a week ago.

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I put beats together in Session view using Drum Rack and sometimes Sampler.

Make some clips and then jam out on the clips and record them into Arrangement view when you are ready to arrange the tune.

Some people work in audio but I work in MIDI because I need to play the drums myself.

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I work in midi almost exclusively (at least to lay it out, then freeze it after for mixing) but barely touch session view. You gotta find the sweet spot for u

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I have an APC so I can jam on the clips live and record them into Arrangement view which is where I do the final edits, envelopes etc.

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Yeah APC seems fun and an interesting workflow thing for sure, I’ve never really played with one tho so its keyboard and drum pads for me

I use all kinds of MIDI controllers because I need to be hands on and playing things like an instrument, not mousing around.

This is my latest controller that I got in December:

For the Dubwise mixing style.

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