don’t tell me what to do
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mf if I had to be hamstrung by @Samuel_L_Damnson’s rule about routing the 808 into the drum bus and @hubb’s rule about never using EQ, you have to listen to my rule about never making drums like that
its the DSF producer circle of respect, we all take each other’s shit advice to make sure none of us rise above the others
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My guideline is to set all compressors at Inf
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Do you not do this then?
All the cool producer bois use hiihats with 100hz frequencies in them these days.
Spent the last few hours experimenting with a just intonation and X-EDO tuning converter I built in Reaktor and now standard tuning sounds wrong
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i listened to this and Vol 2 for a week straight and nothing sounded ‘right’ for a long time afterwards hah, not sure if i ever recovered from that tbh
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wow, really digging this! super lush and hypnotic. thanks for the turn on
I’ve been really inspired by this guys stuff
now I’m doing research on how to build scales for X-EDO tuning systems.
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I might use a cheeky extreme EQ setting on a single drum hit and resample it. Basicly using an EQ as a filter once.
But you shouldnt have an EQ running on a track because it phases. And the linear phase EQs that dont do this, often create latency.
But i’m mostly on about drum breaks. You might not be able to hear phasing on more musical, chord, note - bits.
Nah for real tho I don’t slavishly always obey it but you had a good point in the first place that I immediately realized when I put it to use
I’m very mindful of EQ use now. I’ll use the filters In Alchemy when sampling but I never carelessly slap an EQ on every track to erase “bad” parts of the sound pencil rubber style like I used to. Most drums go largely un-EQ’d to the stereo out. I always turn off every EQ band that I’m not using as you can clearly tell it softens the transient edges and makes shit subtly blurrier. It does it even with everything in the plugin zeroed.
I have gotten very fond of Logic’s stock fake Pul-Tec EQ recently tho, mainly for very cleanly boosting the highs after limiting and compressing etc. Tbh I can’t see a way of not using some kinda filter to boost highs after compression+limiting on drums. You want to compress em and it always dulls the highs. What else is one to do?
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check out this optical tutorial, its seriously good
https://community.dsf.ninja/t/global-jungle-befriending-1996/11644/249
i think on a single sound you can probably boost without fear if you resample a few versions and pick the best one
but if you just had EQ running you might get some wrong EQ cycle when you rendered the mix
(but this is like perfectionist insanity too innit)
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i think in relation to drums one should feel almost dirty thinking about stereo or EQ
lol
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Every time i think im starting to understand shit you guys pop up with some complete 180 shit and i get confused all over again.
You DON’T eq your drums?
And you DON’T put an eq on each track???
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he actually kills the idea of compression too lol
awesome teacher
sample choice, no eq, no comp, mild limiting, bus drums
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Check out the vids in the link when you get the time
but basicly an EQ goes through these cycles to change the tone, like its not a constant, so its better to do it as little as possible
and it goes for compression too
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Tbh i dont use compression at all.
Had a quick flick thru the vid (will watch properly later) and saw a bit where he crossfades the end of one drum hit into the beginning of the next. I do that and i felt all warm and fuzzy when i saw that 
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You guys should get a subscription of Tape Op. You can get a .pdf version where you are.
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nah you need to use compression though lol
loefah once said “know why you’re applying every tool” keep that in mind, its very easy to use EQ on everything but its unwise.
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Lol that’s the exact opposite of what old skool guys like Bruce Swedien say…
Whatever works, works.
Yeah ultimately that’s definitely true
But At least within the premises of tryna make club adjacent stuff it’s more helpful to go through the process of learning what compression can do for you than not. Was definitely kicking myself when I realized how many X more impact you get when compressing drums together just right.
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Ah but I always use that hi end boost on the full drum bus after the compression and limiter, and before stereo imager - which is another one I have a feeling you consider a bit haram on drums lol. But I can’t resist how in ur face the snares and hats feel when you stereo widen the high end of the drum bus.
So basically that EQ and widener needs to be running live on the drum bus in my standard setup.
But I know for a fact I’m doing something wrong somewhere cus my shit has a bad kinda papery flatness to it I hate and I wonder if it’s cus of too much of that kinda trickery in the high end messing up the phase. Especially though SoundCloud ofc with that fuzzy ass compression. But it always seems to sound good there and then.