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back in here with my lacking musicianship asking about how to do lucki melodies again
i know how to make some nice pad sounds in a synth now but what the fuck are the chord progressions in loops like this??
when I try to do any kind of chord change it sounds too cheesy but when I just have one chord it sounds too flat. Smh. I can’t even tell if theres more than one chord in here. Someone with a good music ear help me plss
imo there’s two chords but the “progression” is nothing impressive it sounds wavey cause of the patch and how it’s drenched in reverb
actually sounds like theres just one full step between the two chords like the first is A and then it goes to G or something
yeah i get its prolly simple but i cant do smth that sounds right that way lol
ignore how i kinda chopped it up and made it shitter here lol. But that was a desperate move to make it more wavey cus I think the chord change is automatically corny sounding despite the texture of the patch (imo) being kinda wavey
whenever I do even 2 chords it seems to get cheesily dramatic or off sounding, cant get that smooth waveyness right
any tips? thanks
just put more reverb on it bro
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Put it in reverse Terry.
sounds like the chords just have a longer attack in the video you posted, plus a load of low pass filtering/reverb
Be sure to put reverb on the bass too.
glide b2b adsr settings to get closer to tune
I think yours sounds p gut tho, maybe pitched an octave too low as well
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its all about texture or dynamics
chord structure or musicality is really just rhythm on a microlevel.
because notes are made out of frequencies it means or feels like a note moves around in its own space/has its own definition - but this also means that if you repeated the same note after the first one- but had it move around via a change in texture or dynamics - it would be as enticing as if you ordered two sets of frequencies (two notes) in an interesting opposing way.
what is even weirder is that mellody is the same - melody is only about the rhythm that comes from pushing around the ‘weight’ different frequencies represent
if you had a nice melody and you put in the same note in all the note spots, but you somehow made them different to each other in an interesting dynamic or textural way,
then the melody would become as interesting as the one with different notes
so tonal structure in itself is just an order of notes that are dynamically different to each other - so tonality is just a form of ordered dynamic
microrhythm, rhythm, composition > tonality/ melody/ ‘‘musicality’’
transition between notes is also rhythm
we can talk about that too
but as an example, because its a super deep subject:
if you used a neat legato between two notes to make the transition between them appear to be smooth or appear to be tame or ‘natural’
you could still add dynamics to the second one so the attack portion stood out…
then you might think well, why make the transtion between two notes smooth or seem like it almost didnt change note - but then emphasize the second note with a strong attack when that note was about to ‘appear out of nowhere’ via a sense of smooth legato ?
(like: wouldnt that be detrimental to the smooth transition, the unseemingly-ness of it)
but thats because, even if you had a nice melody or an enticing sequence of notes, the most interesting thing about the sequence would always be the dynamic way those notes were presented
(think of stevie wonder and how his notes are super emphasized, almost squeezed out, or how a jazz musician punch or kick certain notes out of a piano or trumpet)
often the way notes are organized ( as in the scale itself) is actually way clumsier than the minute dynamic differences we actively expect when listening to music/
our listening experience is attuned to dynamics and not notes - so tuning is just ordered micro-rhytmic changes,
scale is just a set of basic rhythms in that sense
which really means that ‘musicality’ is the clichéed order of mini tonal differences
so if you feel like the change between two chords is too cheesy or dramatic, its really because your ears are tuned to dynamics and not chordal structure or the order of notes
i would try a minimalist approach and see if you could make an interesting transition or relation between as few notes as possible
often presets are detuned, so if you use some complex notes in a chord, it will sound too dramatic unless you tame the detuning (or similar tonal fx)
if you hear a complex chord structure in dance music/ trap synth, often they have had to make the transition between notes less dynamic/ tamed the thing because the complexity of the chord is already dramatic - and not spent time (as a listener would expect) on making it stand out
usually you cant play a complex chord on fx nexus because the presets are made to sound commercial, impressive or are detuned for a specific song the guy making the preset used it for
but you can sort of fix it in the different fx sections
all interesting stuff im gonna investigate
i dont use any presets tho and resent the accusation, im starting with waveforms and samples each time and fucking about with em a lot
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Interesting way of thinking of it @hubb .
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just saying haha
Any ableton wiz around here that can tell me why the audio I resample on to a new track is like -2db quieter than the original?
How are you routing the signal? Is it going through the master bus before it hits the other channel strip or are you going straight to the strip?
is the effect you are resampling a minus 2 db gain 
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no but seriously could be a number of things, probably something in the chain but might be the routing or even the headroom … but if its precisely 2 db then its probably a plugin with an individual lower volume setting its going through
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Just using the ‘resample’ function in the drop-down from track input selection. Iirc it does go the whole way through the master-bus.
edit:
It’s simply a matter of adding +2 gain so thats easy enough, just annyoing…
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so im trying to get overbridge for my elektron rytm working
ive installed it and got the individual programme working but i cant find the .dll file anywhere to use it as a VST in Ableton… all the tutorials seem to gloss over this bit and just say now load up the vst in ableton and set tracks 3-10 as outputs 1-8 on the analog rytm
im so confused
any ideas if anyone has done this?