Production Thoughts

I haven’t had that tbh man, I’ve not watched much of his stuff but I’m just blown away by the levels with all his cuts and the way he presents things on the screen.

Must take an age

Goat for sure. I’ve learned so much in such a short time

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Been too drunk to make anything lately. Need to keep exploring more polyrhythm and polymeter ideas.

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Man I love the twelve beat cycle.

Fun fact, if you take the gaps in the standard 12 beat bell pattern (what the dude was playing on the cowbel) it ends up being the 2/3 clave.

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This? Sounds Jungle-y

So is it 3 bars of 4 beats?
Or 1 bar of 12 beats?

Flamenco uses a twelve beat cycle in some of its Palos too, yeah. When I make stuff I usually set it to 6 beats a bar then do half notes = 1 beat, cuz 12 is just too long lol.

I was talking about the clave they use in afro Cuban music tho

The standard african bell pattern is
x.x.xx.x.x.x
Where the dots are rests, and those rests are the same pattern as the clave

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I might have to give that a go.
4/4 is a bit bland, I like to add lots of perc and little bits in the space between beats, so 6 should give me more room to breathe no?

time does not change just because the resolution and increments by which you measure it, can. that guy is still going to hit that timbale every 2.3792 seconds.

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What I like about the 12 beat cycle is you can still make it 4/4 if you want to (no point tho if the whole song is 4/4, just adds confusion). Also it swings real nice.

@clone yeah, I know, I just meant that visually 12 beats stretches too far, so I prefer using 6

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Are you working in a film production pipeline?

Ableton has always been geared towards musicians and isn’t really designed for such workflows. I cringe to imagine doing anything film related with ableton other than actually scoring the music.

Mixing for atmos can be done in any daw btw, just a matter of routing the audio correctly and understanding the specs of the format.

It’s basically a bullshit spec when it comes to mixing music though, the last Dolby spec that mattered for making music was their noise reduction on cassettes and how to abuse it :slight_smile:

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did some scoring and sound fx for a documentary in Ableton recently and found it to be surprisingly solid if you’re just doing stereo stuff. anything more advanced though and I’d be using pro tools no question

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i’m still using Logic 10.5, because my laptop is still on Mojave. I do not use Ableton for anything at all. I know how to use it, but only really from watching tutorials from Artists who I wanted to learn from. Olav Basoski, mostly. His Logic tutorials are all very good, but because he is a good instructor; not just because he is good at production. I don’t even really like many of his house music tracks. So i watched his Ableton ones too. A bunch of dnb artists also use it, so I know my way around like most people I see use it.

I want no part in Logic 10.7 Dolby Atmos on my current laptop. It’s a beast of an intel macbook; but it’s still a laptop! I do not really have extra spare resources just hanging out waiting for some more instructions. I need much more practice mixing before adding another cpu/ram burden. lol

I always prefer linear timeline style production. I would be OK never using a step sequencer again. In Logic I turn Snap off, time to Absolute Values, Drag to overlap = crossfade. It’s about as much as I can do to get out of “loop” production as you can in Logic.

Even if I ever went back to PC, it would still end up being some combination of Cubase, Protools, and Reaper. I never fell in love with Ableton. I have never used Digital Performer on a PC; that might be fun to try out.

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we need more heads like this making music

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So where’s the music?

Can’t find the music theory thread, so I’ll just drop this here.

I thought he might segue the infinity wielded chainsaws into a compression tutorial.

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I posted it in the free stuff thread (I think) but I just got Orb Synth for 87 English pennies (€1)

Nice looking UX, going to install and have a play this arvo

Use code ORBS

looks exactly like the wavetable synth in Ableton lol… :thinking: wonder which came out first