Yeah for cultural appropriation white wankers who think a “bludclart” drop makes their track sound bad
Yez theres some good beats in there but most would just want the Jamaicans saying stuff bits
Guilty as charged y’honour
Sorry man it just infuriates me, a completely un woke person, when some dickhead makes a dubstep track n thinks “oh wouldn’t this sound bette with a rasta come now selecta on it” in fact if that was the thought process I’d be behind it a bit more but it’s more along the lines of reggae vocals are cool I’ll just whack one in.
hihat
Tbf I only ever use them in Jungle.
we stand accused and plead guilty
but now we’re sampling chet doing appropriation so its twice removed post ironic whitestafaryan
Rasta-Aryan
That’s even worse taking a style of black music that literally fed off such samples in its early days often ripped off record collections owned by lovers of reaggae and recontextualising them on your laptop and then touring the world " come now my selecta" I have literally never sampled a reggae toast for this reason it make my skin crawl.
Sleeps is the goat. 
U basically just described dubstep, but yeah agreed, and also guilty
…but i also think that kind of vocal belongs in that genre and is part of what shaped the whole genre in the first place
I once used a Richie Spice sample from when I recorded him in my own studio.
jah man
I wouldn’t use those samples but not because I’m woke but I just think it’s way rinsed and cringe to do so
sure its cringe - because its half assed sort of messaging w lyrics
but the breaks and excerpts are sampled and thats genuinely different unrecognized peoples blood sweat and tears
to take the music seriously we make, the music that combines different flavors or vibes from around the world with no reservation - with only attention to what sounds good - is not only what connects people to the sound and culture - but is also part of the statement that every culture is cool, everyone is welcome on a scene/culture
the same does go for the vocal excerpts even tho they can seem sort of like exotic or get a bit uncomfortable by being ‘‘appropriated’’
but it IS all appropriated - thats the price we pay for making this mixing pot culture urban vibes music
to take it one level further
imagine we had sampled vocals from cultures that didnt exist anymore - that for example we had sampled haitians and haiti no longer existed because of natural disasters or whatever
then it would be cool to sort of ‘remember’ their culture via these samples or excerpts in the form of music
no matter what, these vocal bits in patois are also musical building blocks that sound cool and thats part of why they are used - its not only the cringe trying to sound hard or exotic
the cringe aspect is being a lazy producer - not the act of using patois samples
or when a label like say hospital or R&S only employs or releases white peoples music
that shit is way worse than faking an mc and faking a bit from a foreign culture
i would even argue that reggae culture is not foreign to us, because we have access to it via or because of jungle
we cant police this shit
just like people shouldnt police rap lyrics in america talking about killing people or shooting police or whatever - its part of it somehow
*quickly hides white dreadlocks with doorag and 5 panel
It can work when used by the right people,
Mala, presumably of west Indian descent go for it it’s part of your culture / upbringing.
DJ 2024 speed garage revival " DJ pull up that track" not right imho
And I’m not saying people can’t take from other cultures and recontextualise it’s just when it’s done lazily and is some sort of token gesture.
Hubb I’m sure I agreed with like 90% of what you say you’ve just got such a way of saying it that it’s impossible to follow
I’m gonna make a tune solely consisting of this just to piss off @Meltdown
exactly !
cringe is not forever cringe
what is cringe is also a bit context sensitive - so it might be specifically cringe right now
cant believe i had to write the word four times