Sytrus vs. FM8

Production
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Interestingly enough I just got serum last night, good to know the filters are naught to fuq wit

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Well in my opinion you would probably have a lot more fun skipping sytrus and going straight to fm8 because it seems a lot more straightforward as everything in the fm matrix is automatically linked to the controls in the envelope and oscillator panels, plus there are some much nicer effects and a builtin eq+compressor, i found it a lot easier to figure out than sytrus personally. I honestly think you should just muck around on both until you have some sounds to dig. + any knowledge is power. Im pretty sure sytrus is a decent synth i can’t give you a valid reason not to use it but whatever works, works.

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Yeah I got ahold of FM8 today, and it is way more confusing than Sytrus…

1 BigUp
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most of these growls were made in fm8 bro
https://soundcloud.com/paskeesuteppu/paskii-senpai

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what growls

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Sounds a lot more like a squeal song.

1 BigUp
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idk ay whether to call them robo stabs or? who cares lol they were made in fm8

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they sound just a bit generic imo

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i kinda agree now. these were innovative in 1942 though.

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I understand the sytrus ui and some fm basics but what i dont get about making bass stuff in sytrus is that everyone just does the standard growl thing. Where theres a couple of operators modulating the carrier then the amount is linked to the x and y and thats automated and thats that. Problem is they all sound pretty similar i really struggle trying to make a variety of growly dubstep basses or even comprehend how you go about it.

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not me



etc etc etc
100% sytrus
anything’s possible with FM m8

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Teach me your ways

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i’ve been experimenting for years fam
start experimenting

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actually you CAN’T
FM8 lacks certain perks that sytrus rocks
editing the harmonic spectrum of waveforms, editing the phase of the harmonic spectrum*, waveshaping options for waveforms, importing/exporting waveforms from wav/aiff files, a complete RM synthesis matrix on the flip of the FM one, and countless other shit I love sytrus for

*=edit

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“years” is supposed to be at the end of that tag but it fucked up and I can’t fix it :frowning:

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Don’t know if we are talking about the same thing, but Noisia said in their AMA (ask-me-anything, Reddit) that there’s a way to change the phase of the waveform in FM8. It had something to do with using a waveform with ratio set to 0 and having frequency set to a negative value or some shit like that, can’t remember.

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I meant the phase of the actual harmonics making up the waveform, you could do both in sytrus