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I think the trusik review really hits it on the head. I 100% agree with there not being enough kahn in there. To me it really sounded like a Commodo and Gantz collaboration. It didnāt really vary from that one style. I still really like the album, but its just not really what I expected.
Kinda defeats the purpose of a second drop. It would be like if people skipped the first half of like say lean forward
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i disagree. there shouldnāt be rules about where youāre supposed to start a song when mixing.
and i have done that with lean fwd
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there also shouldnāt be rules on how a producer, or in this case producers, structure a tuneā¦
if you want to mix the tune then figure out a way to fit it into your set.
and to be honest, if you skipped the first half of lean forward to get to the āintenseā part of the tune, you are a fuckin fool. I would walk out of a dance if i heard someone doing thatā¦
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no question. i wasnāt demanding they change the structure of Crystal Collect lol, my view on everything like this is āitās the producersā track, they can do whatever the fuck they want with it,ā especially when people whine about what a producer does. i was just stating my preference.
lol why? You would actually leave? Seems a bit severe. I donāt see whatās so wrong with it. i had a certain blend in mind that worked well with the bell sound and i wanted to double drop it with a specific tune. (it was a planned set) itās not cause it was āmore intenseā or whatever.
i think i may have gotten the idea in the first place from an old set from rinse or something (it was a while ago), could have been a Mala set. so i guess you would have walked out on Malaā¦
Obviously you can mix tunes however you want, itās just why would you go straight to the second drop. Well thatās how I see it anyway
Because a mix is not merely a means to showcase tunes, the DJ also builds something. So I can see how in some cases it would work better
amk is tuff
Yeah that Trusik review is pretty wild, i appreciate the enthusiasm those guys have but it doesnt translate into much analysis, pretty futile to just try and assign each portion of a tune to each of the 3-way collab without any inside info- also collaborative production is way more fluid than that. Its not the case of Xās drums + Yās synths + Zās samples = tune ever i dont think
Also bemoaning the lack of straight Kahn is misguided too, again its a collabo LP, if there was a straight Gorgon or grime tune on there itd feel a bit safe, id rather the 3 of them find some more original middle ground as they have done for the most part.
Thats always going to happen though with 3 of the most loved & most distinct producers in the scene tho, the bar is set so high + people have already carved these guys āsoundsā out for them (to the extent where they try and dot-to-dot the components of a track) that when the area becomes a bit greyer people get baffed
Good LP though, & interesting discussion around expectations & sounds generated by it.
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Music reviews are one of the most useless things anyway, especially for music without lyrical content. Itās like describing paintings to blind ppl. In the end itās just some out of the ass talk with wild assumptions and interpretations. Doesnāt make any sense without listening to the music and if you listen to it you certainly need nobody to explain itcto you. Sorry if i offend anyone with my opinion.
Concerning the record: really solid, but not overly impressive. How you would put that in one line with all time classics like burial or memories of the future is beyond me. My guess would be that in one yearās time nobodyās gonna talk about it any more.
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It takes a while to get as good as them at producing, itās not going to happen over night. When I first started, my tunes were shit, except for the sub and the drum beats, since I was a drummer and now I think theyāre pretty good, not the best, but I am able to make all these different kinds of synths, pads and sound effects now, but Iām still not comfortable showing them to DJs or anyone apart from a few mates.
It takes approximately a year I would say to make a significant improvementā¦never give up is what I say.
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On a serious note, my use of the fl studio demo is like 50% putting me off. Not being able to save half finished tunes is a straight up fuckery cause then I end up abandoning them or rushing to get them finished. Need to get Ps to sort this out
Iāve been using the fl studio demo for about 2 years now.
You got a soundcloud?
Nope
Think they got stuck in their analogy of a ādads rock band supergroupā.
Iāve done it like that before. Dude switched out all the drums Iād put in and they sounded better. Then afterwards I did a VIP with new drums and some of his.
letās keep it real though, would we have thought the article was off the mark if Gantz and Kahn hadnāt said so on social media?
i really, really doubt it.
thoroughly disagree with this. may have to do with the fact that I write reviews myself, but I always thought that reviews could be a means to show a way to get into a piece of music, to give clues on how to interpret it a certain way. reviews that simply describe the music or state āthis is goodā or āthis is badā are useless, but if you think of them as something else they can be a way to help understanding a record. there are loads of reviews that changed my views on certain records as they helped me seeing other aspects of them - music is not unidimensional
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