Gear Lust Part 7

That’s not my setup, hence why I didn’t post it in the “The Classic “Take a Photo of Your Set-Up” Thread”.

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Dang, that’s true.

Hey guys, I figure here is the best topic to ask this.
I’ve noticed for a long time that what I used to hear on ukf and similar places, that dubstep we would hear from 2009 through some of 2011, synths had a lot more definition to them, vibrance, and depth, which I have the presumption that analog synthesis was used back then, however I am not certain.

If anyone could shed some light onto this, as well as possibly give some input on how to achieve this sound, please let me know, thanks.

is there any way to remote trigger the voice app on iphones ?

thinking about putting it inside my music box/sowingtable/glockenspiel ting…

tbh you can just get some anologue samples and put them in a sampler

the synthesis doesnt have to happen inside the analogue gear

one of the issues I have with that is, that the midi knobs for modulation aren’t high enough resolution or smooth enough, in any software synth i’ve used.

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this is strange to me, what VST’s have you been having issues with?

Synthesizers

Serum, NI massive, a lot of them don’t feel warm as much as I’d like, and, specifically for serum, not so much with massive, a 1/4th lfo wobble would sound a lot more detailed and more like what I need, than a 1/16th or even a 1/8th.

“warmth” is a very tricky subject, I’ll leave that can of worms to someone else

I dont really understand what you mean about the LFO divisions though. I can tell you now though, a digital/soft LFO is a hell of a lot more controllable and more accurate than just about any analogue LFO. The ‘detailed’ part especially confuses me.

Have you used analogue hardware before? Just curious.

(for the record, I love hardware myself, but it seems to me you’re after it for some of the wrong reasons, but tbf I dont really understand what you’re actually after)

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I’m sorry to confuse you.
But it’s a lot of things, It’s moreso the detail of it the LFO is odd.
When I run an LFO at a faster rate, it seems to behave as if there isn’t as high resolution for the modulation.

as a numeric example that may be a little confusing, I’ll explain like the following

if I were to have an LFO modulating from 0%, to 8%, at 1/4th sync rate.
it would move 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8
However, audibly so, if I ran it at a 1/8th sync rate, it would move 0-2-4-8, effectively appearing to ignore details of the sound.

yes…what cyclopian said…from what youve said I think youll be dissapointed by analog hardware…personally I think Massive mostly sounds awful and tinny…on the other hand I mostly prefer NI Monark for deep subby basses to either of my analog monosynths…

and warmth is a tricky, elusive can of worms…I have bought and sold a lot of hard chasing it and honestly you arent going to achieve a big, round overall tone in your music by using one analog synth.

Tbh I dont think about the technicalities of this stuff too much myself, I just do what sounds good to me and have fun. But, wouldn’t the function of an lfo cycling twice as fast inherently “loose detail” i.e modulate double that of one moving half the speed? I really dont understand what you mean here haha

I guess im confused too because an LFO by itself doesnt really do anything, its just a control signal to modulate something else like a filter, amp etc etc. Maybe your problem lies within the aspect you are trying to modulate?

I think the sample rate doesn’t adjust according to the frequency the LFO is running at.

Edit: as a note however, I really miss the warmth you could hear in tunes such as this.

I am not convinced there is a way to get similar clarity with software synths, but I may be wrong.

So Roland just posted this!!!

Liking the idea of them being seperate units, but in-built speaker…really? Makes them look like jumped up Volcas.

Will hold fire on the sound quality as a YT video isn’t an indication of anything.

sorry heretik

but you are sort of confusing terms, though I think I know what you mean.

Really neat modulations have to be designed. Like having two sounds seem like they come from the same spot, or at least seem intended in a logic of sequencing. Questioning - answering and that sort of thing.
The clarity or fidelity doesn’t come from modulation going on closer to the source or happening directly going through the source.
It’s much more about fitting individual sounds together and in a way treating bass samples like drum samples. Making sure they have punch and a proper envelope, that leaves room for the rest and so on.

Also there’s a a whole lot of any bass that is hidden underneath the other bits, that could well sound ‘odd’ on their own if you didnt hear the other bits playing at the same time.

That was my thought, also big up distance for the keyboard work :badteeth:

Yeah I thought the same as-well. I guess the speaker is just for playing around.

These things will probably be the closest most people will get to owning one of these classics though. You can save presets on your computer over USB making them practical to use in a digital studio setting.

This vid just went up as-well. Gives you a little more detail. Hopefully Sonicstate will do a review soon. They normally get exclusives on Roland gear.

i’d probably get one of these instead tbh

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