There’s a million reasons NOT to do something.
If you really wanted to make music, you can always borrow a computer, use a computer at the library, record and loop tracks on your phone, buy a harmonica, take piano lessons, download and use a DJ app on your phone, practice singing or whatever. It doesn’t sound like you’re motivated enough.
what exactly is your perception of how the “big shots” do it. I hope you understand that very few artist actually make millions the rest just barley scrape by or live comfortably enough to make a living doing something they love and enjoy. Watching an artists recap video of “some random Festival” doesn’t show you what goes on behind the scenes. or how many years it took them to become “big.” big doesn’t necessarily mean your gonna be making money having wild parties and loads of girls.
i compare this to rappers music videos. they pay thousands of dollars to make you believe they live some luxurious life style and have millions of dollars to throw away. Most of them are in debt to their record labels or management or have some contract they must fulfill. most artists only make money off doing shows not their music. from what i’ve read…how will you perform without equipment or like everyone here has said…your own songs?
Unless you have a rich father or relative willing to support you, you’re probably starting out like a majority of people on this forum. you don’t have a marketable skill or talent that anyone can invest in… at least you haven’t shown the community. you don’t play an instrument and you’ve never created a song. recording yourself beatboxing is not the same as actually programing drums or design sounds. all that can be taught through months and years of learning and doing.
this is repeating what someone already said. no one has ever once said you cant dream or you should not produce. but i’m not going to be the guy to say that your dreams will come true because in reality, which last i checked we live, not all dreams come true.
you can sit behind your cell phone screen and tell everyone yes this is what i am going to do when so and so happens or i get this piece of equipment, but until it actually happens and you actually give us concrete or digital evidence, no ones going to take you seriously simply because you haven’t given us a reason too.
if you truly, and passionately want to produce man, figure out how to do it. don’t rant to us about the what ifs. also, you like to bite the hand that feeds you. that is going to put off a lot of people and make you enemies real quick.
read this article and take it with a grain of salt, don’t consume the whole container.
there are some key points and reasons that relate to your approach/outlook.
You read too hard into what i said. I say “big shots” because thats how i see great musicians (or musicians i thought were great when i was first getting into electronic). I wasnt referring to the girls and the fans and the money. I was referring to the way they can make music and move a crowd with it. The way they make me feel. Like a kid seeing mj play streetball and saying i want to be able to shoot and dunk and pass like him. THATS what i mean by bigshot. Everyone on here reads so deeply into things. Now i HAVE to look at every single word i type very carefully. I expected you to know what i meant, but that was a mistake.
Second, maybe if people stop replying on things they dont know about then i will stop replying to them about the “what ifs.” Or do i just have to expect people to keep telling me the same thing over and over and just ignore them?
You read too hard into what i said. I say “big shots” because thats how i see great musicians (or musicians i thought were great when i was first getting into electronic). I wasnt referring to the girls and the fans and the money. I was referring to the way they can make music and move a crowd with it. The way they make me feel. Like a kid seeing mj play streetball and saying i want to be able to shoot and dunk and pass like him. THATS what i mean by bigshot. Everyone on here reads so deeply into things. Now i HAVE to look at every single word i type very carefully. I expected you to know what i meant, but that was a mistake.
Second, maybe if people stop replying on things they dont know about then i will stop replying to them about the “what ifs.” Or do i just have to expect people to keep telling me the same thing over and over and just ignore them?
I know the process isnt easy. I know i wont be an overnight success.
I didnt ask for opinions on what people thought of me. Those wont help me get to where i need to go. Saying “you seem like so and so” isnt helping me one bit. I want to make music. Its that simple. Leave out the assumptions and just tell me what i need to know.
What you need to know is that you should spend all this week working towards your goal of making music. Spend all your free time learning about making music. Take lessons, learn software, network with a local DJ, strum a guitar, do something. Report back next week.
I. Already. Know that. That was just for anyone that likes to say i havent done ANYTHING music-wise. Dont think id be spending my time with those recordings if i didnt care.
I dont see apps on my phone very helpful. I want to make full-scale songs and upload them. Not just mess around.
Actually? I just downloaded a pdf reader and im working on the first book @Big_lurch listed. Already started on it. I just cant stay up all night reading it because i have to get up early in the morning to see about that job i wanted/needed.
Lost it at “moombahton”
10/10 thread.
Just make music all the time. Books and videos on YouTube are a waste of time. You need 5000 hours+ of making music and <1 of research. Gl hf
Get an intern ship at a local EDM studio. You will be making tea and cleaning up after bigger EDM stars, but will get to watch them work and learn their ways.
Also watch as many of the D4dMause5 (or however you spell it) live studio production streams on YouTube that you can. This will give you valuable insight into how you should be operating.
Be sure to adjust the style to your own to establish individuality.
sons of junglists.
That’s like saying you don’t need to learn about tax law, just do tax returns.
Bad advice.
Yeah tbf tax law and music production are the same thing.
Drop the bass!
(as a personal allowance deduction)
Also taking into account most YouTube videos on production are pretty terrible. It’s a good way to learn to make the same terrible music those guys are making.
When it comes to ‘learning’ production somewhere like point blank or dubspot are great as collaborating with people, feedback etc are all things that make producers better. Second to that kind of environment, collaborating with other artists you know, asking for feedback from people who are making good music, and learning to criticize your own work are all important in developing yourself. Most important is to make thousands and thousands of tracks and learning from your mistakes.
Music theory and technical production knowledge means very little to actual production. Finding your workflow and finding your own sound is everything.
Some of the best producers I know don’t really know what they are doing (technically). They just know what to do to get the result they want through trial and error.
Ignorance can also lead to innovation.
My point is quite simple tho
all the soul destroying music out there is stuff the people that made it - have actually vibed off and got down
thats it
there’s noone able to think up what people could like, without liking and vibing to it themselves
and it’s a hard thought realisation that a lot of people like terrible music but there we go
So you seriously dont believe research could give me an edge? Well im going to read anyway. I’ll at least be able to learn terms, then allowing me to know what abbreviated words really are instead of saying “Oh shit what does kHz stand for?! What does it mean?!!” The constant producing is something already in the plans. I dont have a laptop at the current moment and everyone pointed out my lack of knowledge about music and now you wanna tell me NOT to read? lol dude i also just genuinely feel good reading and knowing that im bettering myself. If i hadnt began reading i wouldnt know that pitch is sometimes called frequency. I dont remember a teacher telling me that. And the average teen doesnt even know that. Reading, in my opinion, is a great use of time when i cant compose yet.
Even if i dont read music theory stuff then watching videos on writing with the software i plan to use could be of use. For example, if i watch a video on how to make 808 bass at least once or twice every day for maybe the period i have to wait for a laptop, when i finally get the thing and download the software I’ll already have an idea of where i should click and what i should and shouldnt do.
I think what lye is trying to say is that with something like production, you’ll learn much more about the process from actually doing it than from reading books and watching tutorials. Obviously it’s good to have the knowledge but generally you’ll learn better through trial and error. Like you could read all the cake recipes in the world, but you won’t necessarily be able to make a good cake without making some first
You have a point. Im just the type of person that cant work comfortably if i dont see the mechanics behind the magic. Ask my past math teachers. Theyll tell you i asked the most questions. If i didnt get answers then id get all tangled up and have a mental freeze.