I want advice on gaining skills as a producer

Just knowing how to do something without knowing why i have to do it and how it works eats me up.

Seriously just wait til u have a computer to work on and just dick about on whatever Daw u have. That’s what I did when in was ur age I think

Its not like i wont be forced to do that anyway. I dont want to have a tutorial for EVERYTHING i do. There most likely WONT be a tutorial for everything i want to do. Following steps for everything would be so boring. Im just saying that i want a head start and reading makes me feel comfortable for the future. I also think that a great producer that knows his shit versus a great producer that doesnt know his shit would turn out to be a better producer. Correct me if im wrong. (Not talking about the subjective side of their music. I just mean the amount that they can do with what they have. Knowing software inside out and knowing how to make good music with it versus just knowing how to make good music.)

the thing is, you dont need to know more than u actually use. there is infinite amounts of stuff you can do, really. and i know just the part that i use, thats enough. i only need to know the things that i do and use to sculpt my sound. if i wanna learn ( on top of the foundation of experience) something, i learn this specific thing which i can only ‘master’ through time packed with experience.

Ok then. We’ll just have to see how things work for me when i get what i need. Ill have questions, though. Such as how to make the bass at the beginning of The Great divide Remix by Seven Lions. Its futuristic and beautiful. I want to integrate a similar sound and give it a hip hop feel. Sort of like the Move That Dope instrumental.

yh sure, but u might want to start with making an 8 bar drumloop.

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Just start loading up sounds into a daw and learn about structure and programming (drum programming etc), hands on approach is the best way.

if you want to do something specific they maybe its worth looking up, i do recommend the masterclass type videos but they are purely seeing other peoples workflows rather than “tutorials” pretty good for inspiration if you have writers block.

music theory is cool and all but what do you really need to know? most of the rules can be broken, sticking to western scales and stuff is a bit meh, and do you really need to know terminology?

if you don’t understand the basics of frequency then maybe yeah its needed when it comes to mixing, but you will get used to all the subjective eqing & general mixing stuff etc when you get to that stage. mix downs and all that shit is the icing on the cake, lean to write good tunes, 99% of what matters.

you keep talking about edge and stuff like your in a competition, your success depends on talent + hours put in to your craft + networking + a bit of luck. Feedback on your work is your biggest friend not tutorials, people will point out where you are going wrong, listen, don’t take it personally, every time you fix a problem in your production you improve.

No i just thought knowing things inside out would give me more control over sounds. But i cant confirm very much until i can acyually get to working on music.

You seem like you know what youre talking about so ill take your/everyone else’s words for it.

It’s called an analogy.

But you included books. How are you going to know the spectral makeup of a saw wave without reading How To Make a Noise?

You’ve got know the rules to break them. If ignorance is so valuable to you than why are you reading a production board?

This is a false dilemma. It’s not a matter of one or the other, it takes both.

Sometimes you have to get through the boring stuff to get to the fun stuff.

Luck doesn’t exist. I’ve seen the success formula similarly written as (productive time * resources and abilities).

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I never said that it’s one or the other, just that you can learn more from actually doing. Well, that’s generally been true for me with things generally

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GL with your production we clearly see things differently

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Thats for the people trying to help me. Dont worry about a thing. I take everything into consideration. No one is tight or wrong. In the end, it all depends on what works for me. The part i told you to skip to is basically our situation.

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Someone told me to watch that scene on an astral projection group a long time ago because i asked how i could trust what they were telling me or not. Telling someone to watch that video in a situation like that is the best thing you can do. And then there would be no more questions to ask. Only thinking to do and experiences to gain.

I got his point. He was saying that sometimes you learn just by doing. Just because you dont research something doesnt mean you you dont know how to create. In my times with little music apps, i saw words such as saw and and waves and all that. Experimenting with them made the music sound different. Messing with that long enough would have made me an expert at the app even though i didnt know what i was looking at.

lol its music bro

That may be his personal process for music making. If it helps, more power to him.

do what works for you, start small, dream big, expect little. practice. practice. practice.

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That sounds reasonable.

Best bit of advice in this thread, TBH.

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I agree.