oh cool got to try the Phaser thing I was always like: yeah one Phaser is enough but the multiple phaser idea sounds really interesting
It’s all about the experimentation. Find out what works best and even analyse other people’s growls and try and work out what they have used, it really helps in the long run if you can identify an effect in a sound it’s a lot easier to go about recreating it or emulating it with your own bass.
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Dude adding phaser was awesome advice thanks and totally agree with experimenting with stuff not just trying to copy what the pro producers have done, also rotation on phaser brings some cool stereo thingy.
Got to work on my drops and build truly not just sound design, earlier on when i published tracks they all kind of lacked the drop as in they were all like few minutes of intro 
well sometimes i do feel like making too brutal stuff is just too brutal but it somehow grows on me as time passes, i have made something of an dubstep electro house combinations also but i don’t know they were like… odd… it is really difficult to know what i want to produce sometimes
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I have this problem too sometimes I mostly do 150 bpm stuff now a days anway so yeah that got a lot easyer for me ;D
I tend to stick between 110-120 / 140-155 now…
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got to try 155 dude never did that befor
the reason why I always do increments of +5 is because it can easily change the feel of a track and also make it more in your face… Like I said previously, experimentation is key!
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Here’s something else I made: https://clyp.it/xu1uyndv
I like the overall Vowel of the sound but it´s a bit too “lush” IMO add some distortion and make it a bit wider and this could be a pretty killer Growl
Guess what 
https://clyp.it/xu1uyndv <- Starting off sound.
Then I changed it to this -> https://clyp.it/tgknml4r
https://clyp.it/aoqps5kk <- Finished Product
holy fuck thats sick dude ! there is still one hi frequency that is a bit too harsh IMO but nothin that would destroy the sound very cool dude ! I like it could you give some tips on how to get the Vowel so clean ? I am always stuck with that latley
I used FM8 as the source bass and with that I did all my usual matrix setup and such and then I route F (for example) to Z and then thread it through to X and then output both of them http://imgur.com/LKJNyQ1 like so… Then if you click on Z it will open up the filter tab considering X is the Saturator and Z is the Filter, you want to leave the filter as it is but then modulate only the Cutoff for that filter… That’s one way you can start to get some vowel sounds into your bass. You could also add another peak by increasing the spread knob below the cutoff to then open up another freq point and you can experiment with that to see what sorts of vowels you can get with that.
After I did that I then did my own vowels with a simple lowpass and highpass filter using ableton’s Autofilter and then automated them to get the kind of vowel I wanted 
Then the rest of it is down to my processing to get it to sound so gritty and monster-like O3O
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oh that is done with the Fm8 Z filter ? dude I would have never guessed that I mean I used it too for some growls but I never got soooo clean Vowels from that thx for the tutorial man ! definitly going to try that out
Also, it’s 100x likely that if you do some sort of pitchbend the growl will be so much better :3
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Awesome growl man, just worked last night for my next track, here’s the Drop without the violins:
https://soundcloud.com/shadowraz/dawn-drop-without-violins
Any thoughts on all of the sounds?
Also would not mind to have opinion on the entire track although not sure should i promote myself at this topic
https://soundcloud.com/shadowraz/shadowraz-the-dawn
Have you sidechained at all in that?
new tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVg95wZMcp0
Never posted in here before but here is what happened today by complete accident
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yeah i always sidechain basslines with kick through Fruity Limiter, otherwise the kick would be virtually non existent while the bassline is playing, i just wonder… i have in fact noticed that most or at least some pro producers tend to keep bass as a separate sound from growls whereas i just boost the low end on my growls