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hhaahah I thought he was dubstepstep
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Yeah. If your electronic music involves bodily fluids, but not in the context of a performance art piece or noise project, then youāre gonna have some issues
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deep pissā¢
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Been listening to some deep drum and piss, great stuff
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The scene up north is starting to revive itself, seeing more and more younger heads at events appreciating the deeper sounds again from a couple years ago when it was dying a bit of a death. Weāve always got Subdub up in Leeds but thats more for the big fish, its been really encouraging to see the smaller nights starting to pop up again.
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how come the drum & bass scene kept going even as fans got older, whereas seems like dubstep is fading away and fans are moving on?
Why do you think theyāre moving on? Thereās a growing appreciation for sound system stuff in general it seems, reggae nights are doing really well. Dubstep is feeding off that as well as its own momentum.
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I donāt think itās moving on, but I get what youāre saying I guess. A lot probably has to do with the current generationās ADD lifestyle. I donāt mean generation as just āthese damn younginsā but the information culture as a whole. Itās like meme culture. Things are popular for a few months and then people get hungry for something new.
Itās also much easier for new things to become the next big thing than it was in the 90s. They catch on quicker, but the downside is they typically donāt last as long in the spotlight.15 minutes of fame has become 5 minutes of fame. Hardly anyone has the patience to watch a 15 minute video any more. 8:30 dnb tune? Skip to the dropā¦
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AFAIK drum & bass is more established / has lasted longer than dubstep. I can only name a couple flagship labels that have been in the heyday of dubstep and are still active regardless of what theyāre putting out now but drum and bass has ton of labels and collectives & producers outside the UK who are making big names for themselves. I can name some dubstep anthems and legendary unreleased dubs in the past ten years or so, but drum and bass has a massive history of tracks from various people spanning a 20+ year history (rough estimate). Similar to dubstep, drum and bass also had some cross pollination with footwork and juke, and there is always producers bringing in fresh sounds at a steady rate.
So yeah scenes are built and act similarly I guess, guess the internet is to blame.
I was thinking of how Metalheadz is still putting out d&b records, Goldie is still making music and they got drumānābass arena and Andy C is still touringā¦ Though, I guess Caspa is still at it and Mala, and youāve got this forumā¦ so perhaps I overstated.
Iām in the US, so I canāt really tell whatās going on in the ground floor of the UK scene.
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This forum is dead let me tell you.
Caspa still touring, really?? I thought he quit years ago tbh I doubt heād sell out a UK arena venue ever again. Malaās Mala, a don.
The way I see it is itās dead and people are flogging a dead horse, thereās no groundbreaking 140 artists out there anymore I think all bases have been covered - like, thereās no more niches to exploit. so offshooting occurs, ie dubstep getting mied with breaks and grime etc not a bad thing but far and away removed from the ātrueā dubstep sound, the organic sound Mala, DMZ, Loefah, early Skream. So in short, itās dead (but thereās nothing stopping you cracking SpongeBob out at aparty or w.e)
Simoly because the producers themselves are older; dnb and jungle have been longer established, Goldie, Ed Rush, Optical, Photek all probably in their 40s but have been doing it from day dot
look who the fuck is back, itās the return of the bruckdot
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Ive been wondering this a lot but Kahn & Neek sure are loyal to their royals
I donāt know if Caspaās still touring, but I follow him on soundcloud and he keeps putting up new tracks (but they keep getting worse and worse imo).
yeah, I probably agree about it not being groundbreaking anymore. come to think of it, I feel the same way about drum & bass, that it kind of peaked in the early 2000s and it hasnāt really been vital since.
thereās some good new tracks and artists (like Donny), but for the most part, I think the older stuff is best.
probably same with dubstep. some good tracks still being made, but not the wellspring of inspiration it was.
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He plays the USA alot with a bunch of cringe folk like cookiemonsta and a certain group of Americans eat it up
Heās playing room one or two of fabric in 2017 as well which is fucking bizzare to me
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