I want advice on gaining skills as a producer

I only argue when i see people that are trying to put me down. Thats not what i need at this point. If they arent helping then what are they doing? Is this the trial all future producers have to go through? To make sure they stick with it even with people discouraging them? Seems like it.

that’s the thing—you think we’re trying to discourage you when we’re being realistic about how difficult producing actually is. it’s not an overnight thing, it seems like you’re trying to convince us all otherwise? you asked for the truth, sorry if these answers weren’t what you were looking for. anywho, good luck!

Yea. Not sure i NEED connections bit the process is really hard without connections. Making music and just putting it on my YouTube channel which maybe only two people know about will get me maybe ten views. Communicating with people that have connections themselves would help a LOT. There was some truth to what he said. I just dont think its mandatory to have connections…well. It really all depends on how he was using the word.

That dude told me i didnt have a chance of getting experience at age sixteen OR any connections. If that isnt discouragement i dont know what is. You all are experts on music or something like that. Im sure you know of a lot of artists that gained experience at young ages. I dont even know what he meant when he said that. I thought the younger you were, the more time youd have. Maybe he was trying to say i didnt have much time?

If someone tells you that you dont have a chance at something, what are they doing? If i were to take some of the stuff people said to me on this thread seriously, i would have thrown my dreams of producing away on the same day this thread was made. Believe that.

think about what you’re saying. OF COURSE you can gain experience at 16 and start building connections. is it impossible to put out club bangorz when you just start producing? it’s not impossible but as everyone else said it’s not likely at all because of how difficult producing can actually be. that’s the truth, whether you wanna interpret that as us putting you down is on you. take it for what it is. nobody is trying to discourage your big dreams, but if multiple people are saying that it’s gonna take a good amount of time before you see results and that killing it right out of the gate is pretty unrealistic, then maybe there is some truth to it.

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To be honest, i cant and wont argue against this. Youre right. Im only saying that because you didnt line this with sarcasm (which i sometimes interpret as passive aggressive trolling when fused with truthful words). You were straight to the point. I know making great tracks from the beginning is unrealistic for most. I know this already. That doesnt even have to be said because the more vocabulary i see on this forum the more i feel overwhelmed. I already know im in for a ride. I just dont like it when people tell me what i cant do. Especially because of certain circumstances that they think i have.

Whats the song for? Did the artist make this when he was sixteen?

i’m not sure i remember anybody trying to intentionally put you down or discourage you, and if they were, fuck 'em! i think as someone else stated previously, we all had the same kinda attitude when we first started, we thought we were gonna change the game and be the next dope producer, and it’s totally okay to think that way and have big aspirations. it is good that you are so passionate already. it’s just that the reality of the situation IS a bit harsh and daunting when first starting out because people don’t realize what it actually takes to produce quality tunes. and that for most people is years and years of hard work and dedication. don’t think of it as people trying to shoot you down but more trying to adjust your thinking to a more realistic expectation of how the game works and what it takes to make it.

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Fine then. Ill do everything it takes to not have my dreams fail. It sounds horrible.

Im still working on getting a job. My mom doesnt take me seriously, so shes less likely to buy equipment that ill need before i do with my own money. This IS going to take a lot of work. And a lot of saving up. Thanks.

I would start reading something, but i dont know where to start first. Any suggestions? Videos are sort of out because daws show up too tiny on my phone’s screen. Thats why i dont watch tutorials yet. Unless you can suggest other types of videos. I remember reading this one famous producer learned from a manual. That sounds almost impossible. If you can think of anything, let me know.

This thread is a bit maddening because you are talking about wanting to be a world famous producer, yet you have not produced a single tune.

Step 1: Buy some gear. I’ve used my theory of technological detritus to build my studio. Try it. Apply it to hardware or software, but just do it, not just talk about it. But you need something to produce with. I worked as a dishwasher when I was sixteen. Had a paper route before that.

Step 2: Start making tunes. Learn to use whatever gear you can get your hands on.

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That. That was the plan.

Whats technological detritus?

I’ve had nearly 15000 plays and have 500 followers on Soundcloud (which isn’t even much). If you put it out there, people seem to find it.

Yes.

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Cool then. And ill listen to the song.

Define detritus for me and extrapolate. Then I will elaborate.

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Detritus is basically waste. Id like to say that its a synonym for vestige. Its something left over.

All that needs to be said is this: The music speaks for itself. When people are in a club or at a festival, if the track is tight, no one gives a shit if the person who made it is 12 years old or 42 with a mortgage. Learn from the ground up. Music. I’m talking music theory. Take piano lessons. Take drum lessons. Then start reading shit over your head about mixing and how they recorded music in the old days. It all ties in together. Because the more tools in your belt, the more you can build what you have in your mind and that’s what it comes down to. That and simply spending the time with your DAW and gear/VST’s etc and getting to know them and how to get the best out of them and how to let them get the best out of you.

There’s no cut and dry, step by step “How To” guide. It’s simply DOING. How do you do it? You DO it. A lot. And a lot more. And after a while, you’re shit is on point and you’re dancing in your seat with a big smile on your face picturing the people that you’re gonna see dancing to this when you drop it at your gig.

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Thanks man. Just doimg seems like the only option. Ive literally just started reading up on stuff. Im starting with how to make kicks. And then ill work my way to something else. I figure that if i know a lot more than a person without a pc should know about composing then ill be in good shape when i finally do get a pc.

Learning other instruments was apart of the plan too. Bit its going to take time considering i need mo.ey to buy the instruments and time to learn. I know that ill have to cram a lot of info on the instrument i will have in the near future, which is a pc. Ive already began watching videos on the origins of electronic and its subgenres. I havent watched much, but i feel like what ive seen opens my eyes a lot more. Finally learning what an amen break is makes me feel more connected to music.

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