Then you end up with nu-metal.
You tryin piss me off?
1 BigUp
idk, i think most of them stand alone pretty well whether or not you know the film. just look at goat stare, one of the biggest tunes in dubstep and im willing to bet a substantial amount of people have never seen scanners
i mean nowadays its become a bit more of a faux pas (most likely due to brostep in particular and the extremely heavy use of corny samples before drops), but dubstep in general was BUILT on movie samples. like the amount of tracks that sample blade runner alone is pretty overwhelming
good usage
1 BigUp
This has to be posted when speaking about movie/documentary samples
1 BigUp
Yeah, but it is played out.
I guess the key to succesful minimal track is to have few but STRONG elements in it. Also subtle changes are nice. Iām really into this Dettman track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJjw2BQOaow
Some might say it is boring as hell, but Iād say youāre lacking imagination then 
Yeah yeah, subjective tastes etc.
Also there is a grand difference between hearing a track like this at home than hearing it through proper soundsystem in a warehousy location partying with good people.
This is huge.
This is what gets me. In very minimal tracks, all youāre left with is subtlety. I know subtlety is the holy grail for a lot of people, but I, personally, have had enough of it. It is like being clever. Worst thing ever. Itās a trap.
I guess it depends on the particular changes and what subtlety is going on there. In that Dettman track, what the synthline starts doing is like magic, the synth feels like a moving object. Of course that magical effect doesnāt happen if the element is poor - in other words lacks precence. Aaand of course, the subjectivity of music. Lots of people like Pink Floyd for example, but I just donāt get it. I achknowledge their skills as musicians, but the feeling they have is not for me. Thatās about it.
I thought minimalism in music was about taking away the narrative of modern styles (like Verse Chorus verse, chord progressions and big changes in structure.)
I actually think that most styles of dance music are minimal in that sense. Especially techno.
This is āproperā minimalism:
1 BigUp
Good point. But thats mostly applying the entry level of minimalism. Itās a fully developed artistic direction innit. That^ just happens the first couple of times the idea hits music.
Imo anything involving a form of subtraction will become minimalist most of the time. Something like music concrete might also be viewed as minimalist but could easily go under maximalist aswell, in how it works outside of convention of for example scales and becomes a plane for something āelseā.
@karmacazee - yeah, good point, and true from an academic/formal historic angle for sure.
I think the consensus for most using the term these days is as more of a generalized adjective for something with less stuff in it than the average tune, but itās actually a good idea for anybody trying to bite it off as a production mode to understand what those folks were doing and the context it came from.
There are a lot of electronic producers who would deliberately set out to make a minimal track who would never think about song structure because they only operate in an additive/subtractive, standard dance music arrangement way and not a traditional rock/pop verse-chorus-verse way.
1 BigUp
Music for 18 Musicians is so good. Iāve long been fascinated by this composition.
That tune is nucking futs!
tips
mute all sound
use left hand on mouse
1 BigUp
The left hand trick is also good for jerkinā the gherkin.
Iām neither old nor wise.
But in this track I used 4 sounds and a voice recording with varying effects.
www.SoundCloud.com/CarniKat/vibrations-feat-vincent-thomas
In this track I used 10 instruments and tons of effects
www.SoundCloud.com/CarniKat/alien-origins-1
Iām no expert on minimalism, but I think you can have complexity with few instruments, and simplicity with many. Itās often about how many at the same time.
One way to keep your music interesting without changing the complexity would be to play the same riff with a different instrument and/or a different octave.
I donāt aim for simplicity, I aim for having a complete thought. Sometimes it comes out as jumbled as my ADHD brain, sometimes if comes out pleasantly simple.
I think the most enjoyable music to my ears often is fairly simple, however.
Animals as Leaders is one of my favorite instrumentals. They create complicated riffs and time signatures but with often simple song structure.